Speaker 1 • 0:00 - 0:15 • 98%
Not gonna get great results with your biceps by just doing this. You want a full range of motion for the bicep. Well, this is your diaphragm, but most people are breathing this way. It's very inefficient, and the the body adapts to that, and it doesn't burn as much fat.
Speaker 2 • 0:15 - 0:17 • 98%
I'm on a journey to age backwards.
Speaker 1 • 0:17 - 0:22 • 99%
The only reason I didn't give up was the effects it was making on a client.
Speaker 2 • 0:23 - 0:38 • 96%
And I suffer from this a lot is, like, the all or nothing. Like, I'm all in business or I'm all in health, and I'm have a really hard time dividing myself even though they're both priorities and I have time for both. I'm, like, laser focused on whatever I'm focused on. We need
Speaker 1 • 0:38 - 0:41 • 98%
to take a step back, and let's rebalance the wheel. What's missing?
Speaker 2 • 0:41 - 1:07 • 95%
Welcome to the Daring Dreams podcast. This is Haley Bowen, your host, and I am here with Gilles Essiam, who is the owner and founder and head coach of O2max. And I'm super excited to have Gill here because his story, you guys, you're gonna be so excited. It's so inspiring. And, also, from a health perspective, he's gonna give us some tips on what he does is so important.
Speaker 2 • 1:07 - 1:21 • 97%
Um, I have actually been a client of his and have reaped the benefits of the power of breath work. And it's not really breath work. It's more, um, what do you call it, respiratory training?
Speaker 1 • 1:21 - 1:26 • 98%
Well, respiratory muscle training because we do do train the muscles as well.
Speaker 2 • 1:26 - 1:44 • 97%
Yeah. Okay. So, Jill, I I kinda wanna sit back and just listen to your story because it is so inspiring. So what I'm gonna do is, first, I want you to, um, maybe just introduce Ultramax, what you do, and give a little bit of an explanation on, like, what we were just talking about. Like, respiratory training is very different.
Speaker 2 • 1:45 - 1:48 • 99%
And then we're just gonna jump right into your story.
Speaker 1 • 1:49 - 2:06 • 96%
Fantastic. Well well, o two masks, what we do, we do, uh, metabolic analysis. So we do, uh, a lot of people will know metabolic analysis. Like, at the Olympians, they'll be wearing this big mask on. They're testing their volume of oxygen that the athlete can consume and absorb in their in their tissues.
Speaker 1 • 2:06 - 2:28 • 95%
So not not the volume of oxygen that's in your blood, but actually in your tissues. So that's what we do. And and in the past, v o two max test was just there for Olympians. And now with technology, we're able to use that technology and use it for the longevity clients as well as athletes. And it's not just the v o two stats.
Speaker 1 • 2:29 - 3:00 • 93%
At O2max, we look at 24 different biomarkers. And, basically, once we we seal those biomarkers, o two max, I analyze it. We make a, basically, a program based on the biomarkers that I wanna actually fix first with my clients, but it may not fit into what they want. So we kinda come to a truth on what they want and then what I think it's very healthy to do to change their life. And we also incorporate the respiratory training.
Speaker 1 • 3:00 - 3:37 • 95%
And like you said, it was a little bit different. We do breath work, which is very important, you know, how we breathe day to day. But we also do the respiratory muscle training is how do we train the respiratory system with £10 of muscles in in an average human. Uh, that's a lot of muscles, and we incorporate a way to be able to train those without hyperventilating and kinda like when we do the wimp off, you're hyperventilating. So you can only breathe so much before you get dizzy and light headed, start seeing squirrels on your deck by hallucinations.
Speaker 1 • 3:37 - 4:05 • 96%
Right? So we have a system and a respiratory device to be able to keep you in that really pH balance of proper amount of oxygen and the proper amount of carbon dioxide in your body that you can train with this device, which you experienced for, like, a long 10, 15, 20 minute, half an hour if you wanted to. So it it's been a a real fun, I'd say, 5 years of my life, you know, from start to where I am right now.
Speaker 2 • 4:05 - 4:18 • 97%
So let's before we go on, let's tell people about, like, what is the benefits of, like, getting your o two max and doing the testing and doing the work? What is the health benefits that people would experience?
Speaker 1 • 4:19 - 4:45 • 90%
Well, my it's from longevity side. We what I even look for is train your metabolic age to reverse it. And, you know, if you're if anybody's ever there, listen to Peter or Tia and the longevity experts is, number 1, we need to we it pinpoints, like, different, uh, statistics, like, where do you burn the most fat at? You know? Like, everybody should know where that fat max is, and you can't get that with the math equation.
Speaker 1 • 4:45 - 4:59 • 96%
Like, your Garmin watch would tell you. And and if you do this algorithm, it says a 115. Well, the math doesn't work. We actually give you the exact point where you burn the most fat. And
Speaker 2 • 4:59 - 5:01 • 91%
terms of where your heart rate needs to be.
Speaker 1 • 5:02 - 5:21 • 96%
Exactly. Like, for me, it's my fat max is at a 137. So I know that I burned the most amount of fat, and I know exactly how many calories of fat by doing my, uh, my metabolic analysis. I know that I burned 12 calories of fat per minute. So you times that by 60.
Speaker 1 • 5:21 - 5:41 • 98%
If I keep my heart rate at that level, I'm burning almost a 100% fat at fat max. So that's great. You get to lose weight. You know the exact number where you need to lose weight and burn that fat calorie. But let's just say that I'm running at a 160 heart rate.
Speaker 1 • 5:41 - 5:59 • 98%
Well, I might be only burning, like, 3 calories of fat, and people seem to not understand that that they think the harder they push, the the more calories they're burning. And, yes, they're burning more calories, but they're just burning wrong calories. They're burning the glycogen that are stored in our body. So
Speaker 2 • 5:59 - 6:01 • 90%
Does that turn into fat?
Speaker 1 • 6:01 - 6:35 • 94%
It does, but we're actually what we're doing in the, uh, in the zone 2 training is we're fat maxed, and we're the crossover where you're burning the most amount of fat and then the carbohydrate, glycogen starts to cross. That's the point where zone 2 ends. And there's a lot more benefit than just burning the calories. That zone 2 fat max to that crossover of those 2 calories that that, you know, glycogen and fat meet is where we build the most mitochondrial density. And this is where we we build our metabolism.
Speaker 1 • 6:36 - 6:43 • 96%
We don't ruin our metabolism. A lot of people will go at a 160. Yes. We're burning a lot of calories. We need to burn those those sugars off, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 • 6:44 - 7:00 • 95%
But at at that point, you're also oxidizing your body. It's oxidized stress. So if you're constantly running at that level, well, now you're ruining your metabolism, and we know we want a fast metabolism. Right? It's like a little fire here and a big fire here.
Speaker 1 • 7:00 - 7:33 • 96%
But if you're always training at a high heart rate, you're basically diminishing that fire, ruining your metabolism. So we wanna keep that fire alive by getting you to train a little bit more into that zone 2 where you're building mitochondria, and you're building all those little capillaries into your tissues. You're densifying all your muscle tissues, and that helps longevity. And it also helps you when you need to, let's say, run away from a bear and you need a lot of volume of oxygen. Well, now we created all those little mitochondria inside your muscle tissue.
Speaker 1 • 7:33 - 7:47 • 95%
We're being created all these little capillaries, extra blood flow that you can run away from the bear or beat the if you're if you're hiking with someone, at least it can run faster than them and get eaten by the bear. So Well it's
Speaker 2 • 7:47 - 8:06 • 98%
When I did so for for those of you who haven't followed my journey, I hiked the Inca Trail last year in Peru. It was a 4 day hike, and I had to lose weight in order to do it. Well, I didn't have to lose weight. I wanted to lose weight in order to do it to make it easier on me. So I can't remember how I found you, Jill.
Speaker 2 • 8:07 - 8:09 • 99%
Do you remember how I found you? I I was thinking
Speaker 1 • 8:09 - 8:17 • 86%
about you. Through through Katherine Spears, which Oh, yeah. Probably will have on your show or you did have. I don't know yet. But, yeah, through Katherine.
Speaker 2 • 8:17 - 8:32 • 95%
Listen to that episode too if you guys haven't listened to it. It's really great in terms of proactive health. See, these are 2 healthy episodes. Anyways, so I contacted Gil, and he put me through all of these tests. And we found out, you know, like he said, where my zone 2 is.
Speaker 2 • 8:32 - 8:38 • 97%
He helped me to train. He helped me to build up my lung capacity. And then, like, I I overtrained. Right, Gil? Like, I
Speaker 1 • 8:39 - 8:40 • 96%
Oh, yes. Oh, yes.
Speaker 2 • 8:40 - 8:49 • 98%
Like, he kept telling me to, like, not do that, but I was like, no. I need to. I need to. And I overtrained. And then when we redid the test, my metabolism score was quite low.
Speaker 2 • 8:49 - 9:19 • 97%
I think I had, like, really like, my lungs were great, and I did really great on the hill, and I breathed really well on the hill. But I think I because I was training for hours and hours at such a high heart rate, even though Jill told me not to, I think it really did do some damage to my metabolism and my, like, ability to burn fat. So then we retrained, and then he gave me a different protocol. So I'm working on it, guys. And so for those of you following me this year, I'm on a journey to, uh, age backwards.
Speaker 2 • 9:20 - 9:48 • 96%
So I can't remember. I think my metabolic age was, like, 41, and, um, I wanna hit 35 by the end of the year. And I have not been doing my homework, so I gotta get right back at it. But, anyways, that's kind of the the me story. But, also, our cross our path crossed in a different way through our clinic, and that way is in relation to your actual business, you know, what you wanted to achieve.
Speaker 2 • 9:48 - 10:05 • 96%
And so why don't we share a little bit about your business journey? Like, over the last 5 years, the ups, the downs, the good, the bad, the ugly. You know, success isn't a straight line, and success is always changing. So let's let's hear it, Jill, because this is the this is the fun part, you guys.
Speaker 1 • 10:06 - 10:09 • 96%
If you're going in a straight line, you're going in the wrong direction.
Speaker 2 • 10:09 - 10:11 • 93%
Yeah. Yeah. Straight line down.
Speaker 1 • 10:11 - 10:40 • 94%
Yeah. And and sometimes when you just wanna go with the, uh, your your let's say, keep up with the Joneses where you're just mimicking other people, sometimes that's the wrong path. Sometimes it's a good path. But sometimes taking your own path is is where you need to go, and you gotta follow your instincts. And, uh, and if you don't have good gut instincts, I think you should hire someone with really good gut instincts, uh, because that that plays a a good role in in business.
Speaker 1 • 10:40 - 11:02 • 95%
It helps you when you make a left turn that is not really a a UE or, you know, a 360. You know? That it's a nice left hand turn turn. Right? But, uh, my journey, uh, you know, it started obviously as a personal trainer, and I didn't like the fact that I would train you the same way I would train Joe Blow next door and Joe Blow next door.
Speaker 1 • 11:02 - 11:16 • 94%
I knew the human physiology is so different. You know? Our blood type's different. Uh, the amount of calories we need is different. And I just didn't like that, and I researched and found metabolic devices.
Speaker 1 • 11:17 - 11:36 • 96%
And in business, I thought, wow. I see an opportunity here for Atlantic Canadians and Canadians to be able to, uh, get healthier. Obviously, my business now is in the US too there, so let's let's include the United States as well. And Yeah. And, you know, I'm in Thailand and, you know, uh, Taiwan and other place.
Speaker 1 • 11:36 - 12:00 • 96%
But when I actually looked at something, oh, wow. This is a niche market. I knew right out of the gate that this is going to be, you know, hammering and hammering and hammering away and that there's gonna be a lot of ups and downs, and it's gonna take a lot of time for people to understand metabolic assessment. So we just kept kept at it. We kept at it.
Speaker 1 • 12:01 - 12:18 • 96%
And over the course of time, you start getting results. Right? But it takes a while because you start let's say with you, start a a program. I see all your biomarkers. I know where I need to fix to basically get you to your age of 35.
Speaker 1 • 12:18 - 12:35 • 96%
But now we gotta do the work. Once I know all the biomarkers, now we gotta do the work. Well, we need to do more breath work. Why is it important, Jill, to do breath work? Well, the the deeper we breathe and slower well, one, we're getting more oxygen.
Speaker 1 • 12:35 - 13:00 • 97%
You're getting I won't explain the dead space, but we do have dead space. So the faster we breathe, the the more dead space there is, so it doesn't get oxygenated. And and our lungs are are most people, the way they breathe is when we're doing a bicep curl, they breathe this way. So you're not gonna get great results with your biceps by just doing this. You want a full range of motion for the bicep.
Speaker 1 • 13:00 - 13:22 • 97%
Well, this is your diaphragm, but most people are breathing this way. It's very inefficient, and the the body adapts to that. And it doesn't burn as much fat by breathing this way. Really weird. But as soon as you do a full contraction of the diaphragm and then getting the respiratory muscles involved as well, we found that, wow, you're burning more fat.
Speaker 1 • 13:22 - 13:50 • 97%
You're also triggering or not really triggering. This is for debate right now. There's a lot of studies on this, but it's actually kinda suppressing the sympathetic state. So even when I'm in an oxidative stress running really high, I can actually suppress that sympathetic state and be more we'll say, with it in the brain, I won't panic as much. Because when you're running at your top, top speed, your mind will wander.
Speaker 1 • 13:50 - 14:05 • 95%
It will say, oh my gosh. I don't know how much I can do anymore. I don't know if I can last another 10 seconds. Oh my all these negative thoughts because you're in a full out sympathetic state. But by breathing deeper at the same speed, way slower breaths per minute.
Speaker 1 • 14:06 - 14:26 • 94%
So let's say you're breathing as 55, 60 breaths a minute. You're just your diaphragm is just going. But as soon as you go 40 breaths a minute at your top end speed, you're thinking more clearly, you're absorbing more oxygen, you're suppressing that sympathetic state, and you're able to think more clearly on a psychology level.
Speaker 2 • 14:27 - 14:27 • 97%
Yeah.
Speaker 1 • 14:27 - 14:41 • 97%
And we found that you're you don't exhaust yourself as much mentally, number 1, because you're thinking better thoughts. Wow. I'm running really fast. This is feeling pretty good. I'm gonna finish this in record time.
Speaker 1 • 14:42 - 14:42 • 99%
Right?
Speaker 2 • 14:43 - 14:50 • 98%
Yeah. Which is kind of what led you to, like, working with athletes too. Right? Did you when you started Yeah. Were you mainly working with athletes?
Speaker 1 • 14:51 - 14:59 • 93%
No. No. I I targeted all my marketing. And, again, sometimes we need to adjust our marketing, you you business people,
Speaker 2 • 15:00 - 15:02 • 78%
where You business people out there.
Speaker 1 • 15:02 - 15:03 • 76%
Yeah. You business people. You're a
Speaker 2 • 15:03 - 15:14 • 92%
good guy. Where Jill's passion is. Right? Like, I ask a business question, and he goes into, like, the respiratory system. So we're gonna pull him back because I want you guys to hear his business story.
Speaker 1 • 15:15 - 15:38 • 96%
And and, again, yeah, through the business, I was marketing runners. Well, uh, you know, and then I was like, I never even got one runner yet to to to do a metabolic assessment. What is going on? So all my marketing was all there, but, obviously, I had to make an adjustment scratching my head. Let's switch it to maybe some longevity people, and let's fix longevity people.
Speaker 1 • 15:38 - 15:57 • 94%
Because, obviously, the runners, they love running in their their their well, most runners. I don't wanna judge everybody, but they love running at a fast pace and that oxidize stress. And to get better, I have to slow them down, and a lot of runners don't wanna do that. And I did it, and I got lost. But back on business now.
Speaker 1 • 15:57 - 16:37 • 96%
So I had to make an adjustment. It started actually promoting to longevity. And it became about 30% of my, uh, my business will be high end athletes or just regular athletes that are looking to improve the sports of choice. It could be a 50 year old, uh, hockey player that just wants to actually not get on the bench and just be huffing and puffing. So by teaching them some some some baseline, some, uh, you know, aerobic types of training, and, uh, and some breath work and some breathing sheets to what to do on the bench and on the ice to make them feel better doing their sports.
Speaker 1 • 16:37 - 16:42 • 99%
So I had to make a big adjustment on what I thought my business was gonna be
Speaker 2 • 16:42 - 16:42 • 92%
Yeah.
Speaker 1 • 16:42 - 16:43 • 99%
And what it is today.
Speaker 2 • 16:44 - 16:44 • 85%
Yes.
Speaker 1 • 16:44 - 16:44 • 99%
So
Speaker 2 • 16:44 - 17:04 • 96%
So let's talk about that because you've been in business 5 years. The first talk about kind of the first half of your business, and then I'm almost gonna say, like, the second half is when you switched up your marketing and then all this like, to me but I'm outside looking in, so I could be wrong. But it was like Mhmm. You were doing lots of great stuff. Mhmm.
Speaker 2 • 17:04 - 17:15 • 98%
You had built an audience. You did a lot of good stuff from a marketing perspective. And then we met. We did some stuff, which we'll talk about. But now it's like, I can't even keep up with everything that you're doing.
Speaker 2 • 17:15 - 17:46 • 95%
So I kinda want people to understand, like, what was the path for like, at the beginning. Like, you said you were marketing to the wrong people, but kinda tell them about your life, like, in terms of, like, what did that mean for your personal life, and what did that like, because sometimes people think they get into business and it's just gonna be like, you're gonna make money. You're gonna be able to just, like you build it and they will come, which is not necessarily true. And I I I feel like you actually lived that. Like, you Mhmm.
Speaker 2 • 17:46 - 17:55 • 97%
Like, I feel like you were one who, like, for 3 years or so, like, you you pushed, but maybe uphill without a paddle.
Speaker 1 • 17:55 - 18:23 • 94%
Without a I had no direction because, again, I was creating a new direction for longevity and health. Right? I was creating my own programs, my own protocols, my own analysis. So the 1st 3 years, I was working full time studying, training for ultramarathons. So I was working and when people say, I worked 80 hours, I literally worked 80 hours plus studying and plus training.
Speaker 2 • 18:23 - 18:25 • 79%
And because you worked for someone else.
Speaker 1 • 18:25 - 18:56 • 94%
I yeah. I worked for for the first, you know, 3 years was 40 hours a week and 35 to 45 hours a week in the business. And I must say, it was hard, and then there's a lot of times you wanna give up, you know, obviously. But then you're seeing the only reason I didn't give up was the effects it was making on a client. Even though I didn't have a ton of client, I would make a difference in one client's life, and I would be like, man, I got I'm on to something.
Speaker 1 • 18:56 - 19:11 • 91%
And then I would do another one. I'm on to something. Then I you know, I have one client that stands to mind. You know? The, uh, well, the one that actually, uh, you know, uh, Adam Fast, who climbed the Mount Kilimanjaro with one lung with with pulmonary fibrosis.
Speaker 1 • 19:11 - 19:25 • 89%
You know? One lung. So he had a, uh, a world record. Uh, Guinness world record, but but it wasn't about the world records that it's amazing what a human can do. But number 1, he had an idea.
Speaker 1 • 19:25 - 19:47 • 94%
He He wanted to climb up to to prove to other people with other diseases or lung diseases that you can do whatever you want, and you can actually achieve success. You can do whatever you want. Don't listen to everything that the doctors tell you. No. My dog's supposed to be dead, like like, uh, 12 months ago because she had a oversized heart.
Speaker 1 • 19:47 - 19:59 • 94%
Yeah. My poor baby girl. And I was like, I refuse to listen to that. I'm gonna continue walking my dog because I I didn't do a zone 2 test on her. I figured I said, this is a better zone 2.
Speaker 1 • 19:59 - 20:00 • 99%
Let's
Speaker 2 • 20:00 - 20:01 • 98%
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 • 20:01 - 20:08 • 96%
But my, uh, I know this is the way I think. Yeah. I'll put her in a hyperbaric chamber. I'll and she's still she's still kicking. You know?
Speaker 1 • 20:08 - 20:11 • 98%
So don't always listen to the to the doc.
Speaker 2 • 20:11 - 20:18 • 97%
So And I think that if we relate that back to business, though, it's the same thing. Right? Like, it's, like, literally, you can do hard things
Speaker 1 • 20:18 - 20:19 • 99%
Yeah.
Speaker 2 • 20:19 - 20:27 • 99%
For your health, for your business, for whatever, but it's good to have some direction on what those hard things should be in order to get you to your goal.
Speaker 1 • 20:27 - 20:44 • 93%
Exact and I had a goal. It was so far, and I didn't have small goals. And that's when I met you, and everything changed. I think you know what? Maybe it wasn't okay, uh, that I put a 100% on you that you all you gave me all these strategies.
Speaker 1 • 20:44 - 20:45 • 78%
I followed it to a 100%.
Speaker 2 • 20:45 - 20:46 • 97%
It was the work you did before.
Speaker 1 • 20:47 - 20:55 • 89%
Well, no. It's it's that you slow me down. You said, woah, Joe. Alright. What you did with me really worked.
Speaker 1 • 20:56 - 21:12 • 95%
You have something here, and let's explore this and let's slow down. Let's break it down. Where are you not making money? Let's look at where you're making money and where there's potential of making a difference for more people instead of just one at a time. And I think that just slowed me down.
Speaker 1 • 21:12 - 21:18 • 99%
That was the biggest impact of my business. You slowed me down and made me think.
Speaker 2 • 21:18 - 21:20 • 89%
Mhmm. So On the business instead of in
Speaker 1 • 21:21 - 21:34 • 96%
On the business instead of me just I just wanna help as many people as I can. I don't care about money. It was more about helping more people. I was just doing whatever it took, one client at a time, and I and I just needed to restructure.
Speaker 2 • 21:35 - 21:46 • 98%
That's so important. Let's pause and just talk about that for a second. I know and I'm the same way as you. Like, I just wanna help people, but there comes a point where you can only do so much on a 1 on 1 basis with somebody. Right?
Speaker 1 • 21:46 - 21:47 • 98%
Yeah. And if
Speaker 2 • 21:47 - 22:13 • 95%
you wanna have the impact that you wanna have, you have to make money so you can grow. Right? And, and you have to get bigger and your business has to get bigger so you can reach more people. And so I think that, like, that's a hard thing because like, I'm just like you, like, I get, like, when I work with you and you get the results, like, I was like, this is like the best feeling, but I can't just work 1 on 1 with everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 2 • 22:13 - 22:19 • 94%
Because I can't impact as many people as I want. And I know that what I have off offer also has is important. But
Speaker 1 • 22:19 - 22:20 • 99%
Mhmm.
Speaker 2 • 22:20 - 22:25 • 97%
I I I do think that's a good realization to say, like, even though I don't care about money
Speaker 1 • 22:25 - 22:26 • 98%
We still need it
Speaker 2 • 22:26 - 22:27 • 84%
You need
Speaker 1 • 22:27 - 22:29 • 77%
it to live. More people. Yes. And
Speaker 2 • 22:29 - 22:30 • 99%
you need it to grow.
Speaker 1 • 22:30 - 22:59 • 97%
Exactly. And you still need to price it accordingly to be able to make a living full time. Because working 80 hours a week to 85, you know, you it's it's not sustainable for a 50 year old male that loves to go run-in the mountains for 2 hours at a time and try to be present in in life. But by working that hard, it created it it just rewired my brain on on and and appreciate what I have now. You know, I'm still working a lot of hours.
Speaker 1 • 22:59 - 23:14 • 96%
You know what's really weird in business? Okay? And I wanna mention this to your your your listeners. Someone I forget who said this, but it says you're one handshake away from making it. You're always one handshake away from making it.
Speaker 1 • 23:14 - 23:34 • 97%
And I remember this is even after meeting you and having this epiphany. I said, I can't do this anymore. This is way too much work. I'm working 85 hours a a week still. Uh, I still had both jobs, and I'm like, I think I'm just gonna scale it down and do this as a side gig.
Speaker 1 • 23:34 - 23:40 • 98%
And I was done. I was literally done, and then that handshake came in.
Speaker 2 • 23:41 - 23:44 • 95%
And This was after meeting me and after your business started,
Speaker 1 • 23:44 - 23:47 • 86%
like, met? Meeting you. What? Yeah. I was just, like yeah.
Speaker 1 • 23:47 - 24:19 • 93%
It was just, you know, me getting into the the NHL and the elite hockey and as well as longevity clinics in, you know, in in West Palm Beach, Florida. And with, uh, with Plaize, uh, that's in, uh, Plays dotai, the the, uh, the company that we have in, uh, Houston, Texas, which I'm supposed to be today, but they had a hurricane. And, again, we have to adapt in business. Right? So now I gotta go next week to, uh, assess more clientele for longevity down there.
Speaker 1 • 24:19 - 24:23 • 99%
So we have to be adaptable, and that's why I'm on this call with you today.
Speaker 2 • 24:23 - 24:23 • 95%
I know. I love it.
Speaker 1 • 24:24 - 24:25 • 90%
Supposed to be in I'm supposed to be in
Speaker 2 • 24:25 - 24:33 • 89%
a play. Like, there's, like, a big life lesson in that because so you worked with me. All of a sudden, you started, like, almost 20 x ing your business.
Speaker 1 • 24:33 - 24:33 • 75%
Yeah.
Speaker 2 • 24:33 - 24:50 • 96%
Right? Like, it was, like, almost what we did with Joe was, like, he had already built a really good audience. People already loved him. He had a big following, but people didn't understand what he was selling. So we created packages and talk more about the benefits of what he was doing.
Speaker 2 • 24:50 - 25:08 • 96%
Um, and he started posting about that, and all of a sudden, he got all these bookings. But then you're saying that even then, you were like this like, you were on the verge of, like, quitting. I need to I need to understand that because I don't understand that. Tell me. Like, was it just getting to be too much and you were like, no?
Speaker 2 • 25:08 - 25:21 • 98%
Or, like, what was because I think a lot of people do that. And the difference between the ones who get to where they want and the ones who don't is that moment of over and over moment of I'm not gonna quit. I'm not gonna quit. I'm not gonna quit. Mhmm.
Speaker 2 • 25:21 - 25:21 • 99%
Right?
Speaker 1 • 25:21 - 25:22 • 92%
So so
Speaker 2 • 25:22 - 25:23 • 99%
tell me about that.
Speaker 1 • 25:24 - 25:40 • 98%
Well, it it was still business really went 20 times, but the expenses were were a lot higher. I found that I couldn't maybe I didn't price it accordingly. I was I was, uh, I I didn't follow the path that I was caught by someone that I'm speaking with.
Speaker 2 • 25:40 - 25:42 • 92%
Oh, we're both the culprits of that.
Speaker 1 • 25:42 - 25:58 • 95%
Yeah. And and I had to to come back, but it was just it was getting to be a little little too much. You know, I figure I said, I gave this a really good go to my mentality. I gave this a good go. It it's time to, uh, to maybe just make this a a a side gig, and I'll be happy with that.
Speaker 1 • 25:58 - 26:03 • 99%
And I can make a good life out of, you know, still helping some people and so forth.
Speaker 2 • 26:03 - 26:06 • 96%
And The universe had other plans for you, Joe?
Speaker 1 • 26:06 - 26:17 • 95%
The the universe had other plans, and then I was able to go with this company, PLAYS, in in Houston with a great bunch of doctors down there and, uh,
Speaker 2 • 26:17 - 26:18 • 92%
You can name drop them.
Speaker 1 • 26:19 - 26:41 • 93%
Uh, yeah. PLAYS dot AI. And we started that, and and as weird as it is, we're using the same program description that you and I created down there. So we're using the exact same stuff in place data dot ai. And, uh, it's such a success over there, and it's grown really rapidly in in the Houston area.
Speaker 1 • 26:41 - 26:54 • 96%
And, you know, I couldn't be happier that I, you know, that I waited, and I kept thinking, you're one handshake away from making it. And that's, you know, that's one thing. You know? But there's other things, you know, that's going on in in my business. You know?
Speaker 1 • 26:54 - 27:37 • 95%
There's so many doctors that I'm working with in the Florida state that are now getting onboard, getting their own, um, you know, metabolic devices, and they're gonna conduct a test. And then we're we're gonna be doing all the, uh, metabolic analysis because I can do it remotely, and I can put them all on my protocol because these doctors wanna see a change in their patients. And, uh, they're exercising in the states, they're exercising a lot more longevity and and, uh, health 3.0 versus 2.0 and just relying on medication. So it's a lot of fun to work in the states because they're the doctors are more minded of, you know, being a 3 point o health system versus the 2 point o of just relying on on medication.
Speaker 2 • 27:37 - 27:37 • 99%
Yeah.
Speaker 1 • 27:37 - 28:01 • 94%
So, yeah, I and so if anybody is listening, you're one handshake away from making it. It's a in I said it about 3 or 4 times already, but I want that to instill in your brain that if you have something that you truly believe in, you have to stick with it. Do what it takes. It's your passion. If we don't have passion in life at something, you're not gonna be living your true self.
Speaker 1 • 28:02 - 28:09 • 99%
So even though you're struggling, it's better to struggle than to just not be present or just to be just living to live.
Speaker 2 • 28:09 - 28:10 • 91%
Yeah.
Speaker 1 • 28:10 - 28:16 • 97%
Follow your passion. And and a lot of times, our business will be what something that we're passionate about. You know?
Speaker 2 • 28:16 - 28:23 • 93%
Yeah. I think, yeah, the most people will start a business because of a passion or a purpose or Yeah. You know?
Speaker 1 • 28:23 - 28:23 • 99%
Yeah.
Speaker 2 • 28:23 - 28:24 • 97%
So what's the next
Speaker 1 • 28:24 - 28:55 • 93%
the same I I get the same pleasure out of seeing. Now let's say with a like, an NHL hockey player. I'm gonna make only make maybe, like, a a 10% increase maybe on their VO 2 max or or on the respiratory, or I might get them an extra 5 seconds on the ice versus maybe another 10 seconds on the ice at a proper skating form because their VO two max is is higher, their lung capacity is higher, and their coordination is higher. Now I get excited on that. That's not gonna change their life.
Speaker 1 • 28:55 - 28:57 • 99%
It's gonna change their career.
Speaker 2 • 28:57 - 28:57 • 82%
Yes.
Speaker 1 • 28:57 - 29:29 • 97%
But then so I get excited for their career. But then I get the other side where I make an impact on someone's longevity. And to see that excitement on people, it's almost I'm excited about hockey because it's my passion. But I get excited with my longevity clients because you know they know that they just reduced their metabolic age, and they know that if they continue on this path, they're gonna live a healthier life. So the last 10 years of their life are not going to be, you know, in a chair or with a cane.
Speaker 1 • 29:29 - 29:48 • 95%
They're gonna be able to hike up the Spanish stairs in Italy. They're gonna be able to walk around, roam, you know, being in a wheelchair or being on a bus tour. That is the message that I wanna portray for my my longevity clients. And that's what fuels me. So in business.
Speaker 1 • 29:48 - 30:14 • 97%
So you need to find what fuels you in your business to continue to move forward, to find that one handshake that opens door. And when that door opens, that's not when you take your foot off the gas. That's where the number one thing that I see in in in, let's say, realtors. When I was a real estate agent, when I was top 3% in Canada, I would see people do, like, 5 transactions. They would make, like, $30,000 in 1 month.
Speaker 1 • 30:14 - 30:26 • 96%
And guess what? Wow. Foot off the gas, and then I'm just going to just manage these clients, get closings, and take the foot no. No. When you're busy, that's when you become way more productive.
Speaker 1 • 30:26 - 30:39 • 98%
Everything is firing in the brain. You're protruding. You're you're you're everything that's coming out of you, you're excited. People are gonna see that, so your sales are gonna continue to go higher because you're just you're you're in the moment.
Speaker 2 • 30:39 - 30:47 • 94%
Yeah. And your energy is, like, drawing people. Like, I I really believe, like, I'm gonna prove it someday. Like, the law of attraction in business. Right?
Speaker 1 • 30:47 - 31:01 • 88%
Law of attraction. Exactly. And so that's what I want For sure that your your listeners is as soon as everything is going good, that one handshake well, continue. You want you want 10 more handshake now because you're on a you're you're you're a
Speaker 2 • 31:01 - 31:16 • 89%
senior manager. Handshake. Right? It could be a handshake or it could be an opportunity or a door open or whatever, but it's like you gotta be on the lookout. Like, for you, it was a handshake, but but it's it's like see the but you also, Jill, which I love about you.
Speaker 2 • 31:16 - 31:33 • 97%
Like, a lot of people are like, okay. I just I'm gonna market my business. I'm gonna do social media, and, um, I'm gonna see how it goes. And you did that. But at the same time, you were building relationships, being seen by people who could give you that handshake.
Speaker 2 • 31:33 - 31:33 • 99%
And
Speaker 1 • 31:34 - 31:34 • 96%
let's talk
Speaker 2 • 31:34 - 31:43 • 96%
about how that happens because I think a lot of people get stuck in one lane from a business growth perspective and don't Yeah. Put their feelers out enough.
Speaker 1 • 31:44 - 32:05 • 93%
Yeah. And, you know, it's, uh, I'm putting feelers everywhere. I'm talking to, you know, uh, and then I'm sending messages to the NHL. I'm sending messages to trainers in the NHL, and then, uh, people that are actually, you know, the performance coaches for the NHL. And then then you get a message from 1, you know, that says, thank you, but not interest at this time.
Speaker 1 • 32:05 - 32:10 • 88%
You know? And I was like, oh, hey. You replied. What what is this? That's a win.
Speaker 1 • 32:10 - 32:20 • 93%
You know? That's how my brain thinks, wow. This is the head coach of blah blah blah Tate. And I was like or not head performance coach. So I'm like, yes.
Speaker 1 • 32:20 - 32:23 • 96%
You read my message. Now I just need to refine my message.
Speaker 2 • 32:24 - 32:27 • 96%
Yeah. And send it to more. Is that what you did?
Speaker 1 • 32:27 - 32:33 • 96%
Send it to more. Well, yeah. For sure. And it didn't really lead to nowhere because I was trying to go through the front door. Right?
Speaker 1 • 32:33 - 33:03 • 93%
And then you we all know someone that knows someone that knows someone, and you have to get yourself known. So you have to use public relations, You know, talk to you know, for me, he's talking to Charlie Bourgeois who runs a, uh, you know, a big camp of, uh, young hockey players down here. Uh, you know, making acquaintances. Tell them what what I do, talking to Rick Legere who also trains elite hockey players. These relationships were over the course of the year.
Speaker 1 • 33:03 - 33:15 • 88%
And finally, you know, these these people are going, what can you do again? They're thinking they see me out there, and they're like, you're training. Who again? My god. How how are you doing all this?
Speaker 1 • 33:15 - 33:35 • 91%
Well, let me tell you again what I do. And then they're like, can can you come speak to my my kids or my elite athletes? For sure, I'll go speak to them. And let me tell you what what I do. And then all of a sudden, well, Charlie knows this gentleman and this gentleman and this gentleman, and that's how the ball gets rolling into the hockey rink.
Speaker 2 • 33:35 - 33:55 • 96%
There's there's some types of businesses that are very sciency, and some people get, like, glossed over. Like, with like, their eyes gloss over when you talk to science. Yeah. So I think, like, as a business owner, as a marketer, it's, like, finding different ways to talk about the same thing or to show Yep. Like, maybe showing showing is what needs to happen.
Speaker 2 • 33:55 - 34:07 • 97%
But I think a lot of people, and you're not my only health client who does this, is really caught up in the science and the ex because it's exciting to you. Right? But people just wanna know what's in it for me. Right? And so Mhmm.
Speaker 2 • 34:08 - 34:14 • 98%
I think that was a little bit, like obviously, you still do it, and it's very important because people need to understand the science. But
Speaker 1 • 34:14 - 34:15 • 98%
Very much.
Speaker 2 • 34:15 - 34:18 • 92%
The deal, they need to understand the what's in it
Speaker 1 • 34:18 - 34:46 • 94%
for me. When it gets really sciency, like like mine, is how do we you taught me how to dumb it down. And I still type in to chat GPT grade 7 of what I'm talking about to make it more relatable to to the the average public. And it you don't realize when you study as much as I study, read journals of the, uh, the English, the the the you know, your your attitude on on all this knowledge that you realize
Speaker 2 • 34:46 - 34:48 • 75%
There are many vocabulary associated
Speaker 1 • 34:48 - 35:00 • 94%
with it yet. You're on a different level. And so I have to continue to teach myself, how do I tell you, Haley, how this works on a very easy term?
Speaker 2 • 35:00 - 35:05 • 96%
Yeah. And then And and he's not saying grade 7 level, you guys. Don't get offended. Like Yeah.
Speaker 1 • 35:05 - 35:06 • 97%
Yeah.
Speaker 2 • 35:07 - 35:16 • 90%
Grade 7 on the grade 7 level. And I'm a very educated person, but I need Jill to tell me at a grade 7 level because science is not my domain.
Speaker 1 • 35:17 - 35:45 • 95%
And and, you know, I taught my business partner in in Florida, in West Palm Beach. He's a respiratory, uh, therapist who has all the metabolic background. You know, he knows what I know, but he also knows the respiratory therapist. So he loses me a time. I'm like, well, you know, I'm a very smart guy in the respiratory system, but can you just dumb it down this a little bit for me?
Speaker 1 • 35:45 - 35:57 • 96%
Just explain this mercury level of the blood and the I'm like, whew. Okay. Explain it to me. Like, I'm I'm I'm just about to ride a bike. So it doesn't matter when I have to dumb it down.
Speaker 1 • 35:58 - 36:04 • 94%
Other people, for me, have to it's up to my level so I can understand it so I can be at their level as well. Right?
Speaker 2 • 36:04 - 36:22 • 98%
Yeah. That's a great marketing tip, though, because that was one of the first things I learned, um, when I worked at an agency, a creative agency, was the simpler, the better. The simpler like, a lot of and it's way harder to come up with one sentence to explain what you do than to write a whole book. Right?
Speaker 1 • 36:22 - 36:23 • 97%
It's Or
Speaker 2 • 36:23 - 36:26 • 97%
to write multiple paragraphs, and people can only remember too much. So
Speaker 1 • 36:28 - 36:54 • 95%
And I had to, uh, that's funny. I went to Houston, uh, I don't know, a couple of months ago, and I had to talk to very influential people in the, uh, Texas and Houston areas, maybe about a 100 people. And a lot of them are doctors. Um, the day before, we did kinda like a a run through. So I did a run through of my speech, and the 2 doctors came up to me because they're part of the, uh, the team.
Speaker 1 • 36:54 - 37:15 • 93%
They're like, Jill, can we dumb it down a little bit? It was a little too complicated for even me. And he was a and he's a, uh, as funny as it is, but he's a, uh, pulmonologist. They got that pulmonologist says, alright. It was complicated for me to understand because, you know, I save lives.
Speaker 1 • 37:15 - 37:37 • 96%
You you're telling me how to improve their lives with the respiratory system, which is mind boggling to me. So I think we need to just so, anyway, when it was time to do it in front of the event, I didn't know what I was gonna say, but then I was like, just speak on the things that people understand. That matters. That's where I burn the most fat. VO 2.
Speaker 1 • 37:37 - 37:43 • 96%
This is where we absorb oxygen the most. So, um, and, you know, it's, uh
Speaker 2 • 37:43 - 37:50 • 91%
Yeah. Because there's 24 like you said, there was 24 indicators that you're looking at. So it's not just about max max the fat max everybody.
Speaker 1 • 37:50 - 37:51 • 99%
Yeah.
Speaker 2 • 37:51 - 38:15 • 98%
There's lots of different parts of the, you know, the thing. And then what Jill does, which I really appreciate, is you do the test, but then he goes through the results with you and explains what each of them means and then what you need to do to improve that, uh, indicate it's it's very, very helpful, and I'm excited to start working with you again because I took a little break.
Speaker 1 • 38:17 - 38:25 • 87%
For yep. For for for sure. Yeah. It's, uh, it's funny. I had one gentleman, uh, this week, uh, so I did a metabolic assessment.
Speaker 1 • 38:25 - 38:49 • 95%
And I looked at all these biomarkers, and I'm scratching my head on my I'm I'm scratching all this. His biomarkers were so off weird all because of his breathing. He was basically not quite hyperventilated, but I'm gonna use the word hyperventilate. Hyperventilate, basically, you you'll you'd need to basically off your carbon dioxide. You'll need a paper bag, and you're fully truly in the hyperventilate state.
Speaker 1 • 38:49 - 39:03 • 94%
It was not quite in the hyperventilate. We call it tycapnia, where it was just very rapid breathing and not absorbing enough oxygen, and it secured all the numbers. So he's like, Jill, oh, I wanna know all my fat max. I wanna know this. He he was so interested on the stuff that I do.
Speaker 1 • 39:03 - 39:15 • 96%
He's been following me for a while. I'm like, listen. So we've gotta go through the basic with you. I'm just gonna teach you how to breathe first, and we're gonna redo the test. I said, that's how messed up your stats are.
Speaker 1 • 39:15 - 39:31 • 97%
I can't even get an accurate stat on you because you're, you know, you're breathing basically, like, 4 times faster than I breathe, like and I'm jogging, and you're you're walking. So, you know, you you we need to fix this first, and then we'll redo the test. And then we'll get to the exciting stuff.
Speaker 2 • 39:32 - 39:33 • 93%
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 • 39:33 - 39:47 • 96%
It's the first time that I actually had to, you know, say, listen. I'm scrapping everything. We're just gonna do the respiratory training for you for now. And in 5 weeks, I'm gonna redo the test, and then we'll be able to see a clearer picture. It's like it's like I was looking at
Speaker 2 • 39:47 - 39:49 • 56%
it. Parallels, Joe.
Speaker 1 • 39:49 - 39:50 • 92%
Oh, yeah. So
Speaker 2 • 39:50 - 39:58 • 93%
it was like so many parallels in that, like that was basically what we did with you. It's like you need to, like, now step back. Like, you've done so much stuff. Right? It's the same.
Speaker 2 • 39:58 - 40:00 • 89%
It's like step back to do it.
Speaker 1 • 40:00 - 40:12 • 94%
And and I follow my gut instinct on that. And, again, for business people, we have to follow our gut instinct. I could've gave a whole program for it, and here's the I it's gonna cost you such and such money. Boom. Boom.
Speaker 1 • 40:12 - 40:24 • 91%
Boom. But I knew in my heart, I was like, wow. Every time he was breathing, kinda normal. Uh, oh, wow. He's he starts using fat, and then he would stay there for, like, 20 seconds, then he would be all over the place again.
Speaker 1 • 40:24 - 40:53 • 95%
And when I say all over the place, he was breathing really, really, really fast, you know, panting like like like a dog was, and that's gonna change your entire pH level. That's gonna change your entire physiology. So I went with my gut and said, nope. I'm I'm not getting you to do anything on my program until you do the respiratory training, then we'll redo the test, then we'll go work on all your real stuff. So sometimes we need to to follow that gut instinct in business and just say, you know what?
Speaker 1 • 40:53 - 41:08 • 96%
I'm not going after the big package, the big money. I wanna know what's right for this particular client. This fits. So if you have, like, a $1,000 machine, but you you know deep down that he doesn't need that $1,000 machine. He needs the, uh, the $100 machine first.
Speaker 1 • 41:08 - 41:20 • 97%
And then once he's using that $100 machine, maybe you'll need that $1,000 machine later. You're gonna get that client number 1, you're gonna have that client's life because you're like, no. No. You're you're not taking the $1,000 machine. Let's use this machine.
Speaker 1 • 41:20 - 41:26 • 97%
You know what? Don't waste your money yet. However, come see me next year when you're when you need the $1,000 machine.
Speaker 2 • 41:26 - 41:30 • 98%
Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that's sometimes what's missing today
Speaker 1 • 41:30 - 41:31 • 91%
Mhmm. Yeah.
Speaker 2 • 41:31 - 41:39 • 93%
Is that people are just selling what they want to sell sell versus what the customers actually need.
Speaker 1 • 41:39 - 41:40 • 99%
Exactly.
Speaker 2 • 41:40 - 41:54 • 98%
And it's it's hard not to, but I think, like you said, it's the relationships. It's the longevity. It's clients coming back. Like, that is one of the things that I teach a lot with small businesses is it's not about just getting a client and selling to them. It's about keeping them.
Speaker 2 • 41:54 - 42:04 • 95%
It's about how do you Yeah. Grow with them. And it's that circle, which I call the h pro system, but it's that circle that is gonna give you longevity in your business.
Speaker 1 • 42:05 - 42:12 • 92%
Mhmm. Right? Yep. And for business too, in in a lot of businesses. We almost gotta, uh, be you know?
Speaker 1 • 42:12 - 42:30 • 96%
Like, for you, you used a lot of psychological stuff, but, like, you almost did. You had to, like, slow me down in in my mind. You had to feel what I was feeling, and you knew what I was thinking, and you knew that, well, Jill, why don't we go here? And then you would ask me, you know, do you agree? I'm like, 100%.
Speaker 1 • 42:31 - 42:36 • 93%
You know? You're right. You're right. You know? And and sometimes we do have to use psychology.
Speaker 1 • 42:36 - 42:55 • 95%
And and in my business, I gotta use it a lot more, especially when you're you're dealing with people with longevity. You know? They they wanna quit. And if you if I would make make it too intense, they'll quit. So I gotta find that right medium to to change their their biomarkers by just getting them to move first and get them involved first.
Speaker 1 • 42:55 - 42:57 • 99%
Because if I go too intense, I lose the client.
Speaker 2 • 42:57 - 42:58 • 95%
Yeah.
Speaker 1 • 42:58 - 42:59 • 99%
And even though I wanna go all
Speaker 2 • 42:59 - 43:08 • 91%
in Or too not intense. Right? Because if they if they don't feel like they're getting not engaged. The results, then you also Exactly. So you got this, like yeah.
Speaker 1 • 43:08 - 43:13 • 95%
And and you gotta use psychology. Like, what happened? Why did you miss this this? Well, I didn't have any time. Okay.
Speaker 1 • 43:13 - 43:21 • 92%
Well, I I have no time, but I do it. You know? Alright. You have no time? Do the respiratory training in your car, then you drive 20 minutes to work.
Speaker 1 • 43:21 - 43:35 • 95%
No problem. Slap that in the like I told you, you know, you're you're typing away. Put that in the mouth. Put your, uh, your your app up. Follow the, uh, the rhythm that I want you to to breathe at, go to a 100% while you're typing away.
Speaker 1 • 43:35 - 43:50 • 96%
There's never we all have excuses of why we don't do these things that we need to work on. And and there are excuses because we can do them. Maybe we can need to wake up a half an hour earlier. Maybe we need to go to, uh, watch half an hour less TV. I'm not telling people don't watch TV.
Speaker 1 • 43:50 - 43:57 • 93%
Maybe watch a half an hour less, so you go then half an hour earlier and wake up half an hour, uh, earlier to do those those things.
Speaker 2 • 43:57 - 44:03 • 94%
Well, it's priorities. It's like everybody has priorities in their life. Everybody has the same amount of time. It's just what are you prioritizing?
Speaker 1 • 44:04 - 44:04 • 75%
Yeah.
Speaker 2 • 44:04 - 44:32 • 97%
Do you like and you and for me, I had a hard like and I suffer from this a lot is, like, the all or nothing. Like, I'm all in business Yeah. Or I'm all in health, and I'm have a really hard time, like, being part like, dividing myself even though they're both priorities and I have time for both, I'm, like, laser focused on whatever I'm focused on. So that's a journey that I have to take because Mhmm. When I was on my health journey, I really, like, did nothing in my business.
Speaker 2 • 44:32 - 44:47 • 96%
Like, I worked my current clients, but I wasn't in growth mode. And then now that I'm back into, like, let's build this business. Let's help more people. Now Mhmm. The health is like so it's it's this weird um, do you have any advice for that?
Speaker 1 • 44:47 - 45:03 • 97%
I call this the you know, for for me, what I try to do for my longevity rights is to become a hybrid athlete. If they wanna go for a hike, they can. This is gonna come back around here to business too. So if they wanna go for a hike, they can. If they wanna go for a jog, they can.
Speaker 1 • 45:03 - 45:23 • 98%
If they wanna lift, uh, you know, their body weight off their chest, they can. If they want to, uh, to, uh, do a jump over a log, they can. If they wanna look, you know, good at the beach, they they can because you're training them all around. So it's it's the circle. Right?
Speaker 1 • 45:23 - 45:37 • 94%
Let's call it the wheel. So we're balancing. That's why hybrid athletes right now is the healthiest thing to do because you can actually do everything. You're working on your VO 2 mask, your muscle mask. We need muscle mask to to get older so that way if we do fall, we don't break our hips.
Speaker 1 • 45:37 - 45:53 • 95%
Right? Because we know the the death rate after 65. If you break your hips, you know, the chances, uh, you know, that you could die is is, like, 20%. You know? And after 70, it decreases even more that, you know, you can die of complications.
Speaker 1 • 45:53 - 46:06 • 94%
It might not be because of the hip, but it might be from from blood clots. Uh, it could be anything because you're not moving your VO 2 max drop. So a hybrid athlete is the same thing as in life. Right? We need this full circle.
Speaker 1 • 46:06 - 46:15 • 97%
We need faith. We need, uh, exercise. We need friendship. You know, what works well in the blue zones where people live long? They have a community.
Speaker 1 • 46:15 - 46:30 • 96%
They have their churches. They have their faith. They have they they exercise in their own way. They're bare feet in the ground where they're they're they're getting the, uh, the energy from you know, this is a scientific thing. People think that's hokey pokey, but you're getting energy from from the Earth.
Speaker 1 • 46:30 - 46:49 • 95%
You know? If you're bare feet and you touch your touch the tree, you're getting a frequency from the Earth. Right? There there's a reason why, uh, NASA has PMF devices in space is to help, you know, the, uh, the individuals out to to give them good frequencies. Yeah.
Speaker 1 • 46:50 - 47:15 • 95%
To be a full athlete, a well rounded athlete, and then a a healthy human being, we gotta have the business in place. We gotta have our friendships, our spouses, everything as balanced as we can. It's impossible to have a a a perfect circle. But if we're always working when one side of the, uh, the wheel gets a little bumpy, we increase that section. If a relationship is suffering, we spend more time in a relationship.
Speaker 1 • 47:15 - 47:28 • 95%
So I truly believe we need that in business because we and especially business people that go 100% like you and me, and we go a 100% of something. We need to take a step back and and let's rebalance the wheel. What's missing? Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 • 47:28 - 47:31 • 98%
Yeah. It's life. It's not just business.
Speaker 1 • 47:31 - 47:31 • 88%
It's it's
Speaker 2 • 47:31 - 47:33 • 99%
full life that matters.
Speaker 1 • 47:34 - 47:36 • 83%
It's full life and yeah. Exactly.
Speaker 2 • 47:37 - 47:54 • 98%
Um, so I actually have to close this off because we're coming up on the hour. Um, Jill, how do people find you? How do they work with you? Tell tell them all the stuff. I'll also put it in the show notes, everybody, because I know there's gonna be a lot of people that are interested in improving longevity or performance.
Speaker 1 • 47:54 - 48:03 • 82%
For sure. For sure. Yeah. We you can go to o two max dot c a. The o 2 is for the oxygen, and Max.
Speaker 1 • 48:03 - 48:29 • 94%
And, uh, yeah, contact me. I I mean, I wrote obviously, I work with professional athletes all over the the world. So I do work remotely. Uh, I'm in Houston, Texas, West Palm Beach, Miami, and, uh, obviously, in Milton, New Brunswick. Contact me anytime even if you have questions on the metabolic system, on longevity, or if you wanna improve your sport of choice.
Speaker 1 • 48:29 - 48:44 • 95%
There's always something that you can do even if it's just even if you're in Toronto, I can put you on the respiratory muscle training program. And, uh, remotely, you'll be on my app, and you can follow along and improve your overall health. Yeah.
Speaker 2 • 48:45 - 48:56 • 98%
Yay. Okay. And I'm gonna put all your socials in the show notes so people can follow you. Um, Gil, as always, it's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for joining me on the Daring Dreams podcast.
Speaker 1 • 48:57 - 48:58 • 99%
Well, thanks for having me.
